Tom's guest is the South African born broadcaster and author Judith Krummeck. In the 1990s, she came to America after leaving the system of Apartheid in South Africa. Krummeck has written a book about that experience that also tells the story of her great-great grandmother, who herself was in immigrant from England, who came to South Africa with her missionary husband in the early nineteenth century. The book is called Old New Worlds: A Tale of Two Immigrants.